tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7853678040614096966.post4989920019934256968..comments2023-05-22T06:04:12.917-04:00Comments on Kaleidoscope Muff: Op-EdMuffiehttp://www.blogger.com/profile/04542678482763101104noreply@blogger.comBlogger8125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7853678040614096966.post-62703271741871944412015-06-03T18:35:41.937-04:002015-06-03T18:35:41.937-04:00She can wear whatever she wants after school. Rul...She can wear whatever she wants after school. Rules are rules...too bad if someone doesn't like them...get an education sister and then after you graduate with a education you can protest all you want:)Far Side of Fiftyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07995757632158408442noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7853678040614096966.post-20310987312185872082015-06-03T12:43:21.511-04:002015-06-03T12:43:21.511-04:00I had conversations along these lines when I was a...I had conversations along these lines when I was a high-school teacher, counseling students as to how to deal with the grown-ups. Often it boiled down to saying, "Look, this has NOTHING TO DO WITH YOU. They just want something, and they won't take anything besides what they want. So, if we give it to them, we can still win--as long as THEY think that THEY have won." Respect was mandatory for my students to exhibit, mores if the Grownups weren't being respectful. Again, They win by getting what They want (being jerks) but We win, by being more adult than They are.<br /><br />A moral victory is still a victory; certainly it is, in the calculus of the battle with The Administration, who in the battle of wits, often seem unarmed. By choice.Robert Parkerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00861491569742630629noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7853678040614096966.post-38740208066952610642015-06-03T10:49:59.179-04:002015-06-03T10:49:59.179-04:00I guess I opened a can of worms with this one, did...I guess I opened a can of worms with this one, didn't I? Thank you so much for all your opinions -- I gave each one my undivided attention. I may not agree with everyone, but I certainly appreciate your time and effort in responding. I think I'll do this more often -- it is so interesting.<br />BTW -- for those who are interested, the dress code rule was concerning short shorts. Muffiehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04542678482763101104noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7853678040614096966.post-15494689588429819392015-06-03T07:21:11.276-04:002015-06-03T07:21:11.276-04:00Did the school authorities just get wind of the pe...Did the school authorities just get wind of the petition and react, or did they actually meet with the Alyssa?<br />From what I read here, I have nothing but support for Alyssa. She used a tool of our democratic society that had the potential to start a useful conversation. If, as it sounds, the administration threw it's power and simply shut down discussion, shame on them for missing a valuable teaching opportunity.<br />I personally don't disagree with the idea of dress codes. There was an opportunity here for adults to sit down with students and discuss the whys and the wherefores, They would still have the final say, but the kids would have been heard as well. They would have learned the value of the process in attempts to make changes in future. <br />What did they learn here--blind obedience or next time be more subversive?<br />Well,Muff, this one got my liberal, left-wing, pinko, Bernie-lovin' hackles up, didn't it?Olgahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00692441479616299920noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7853678040614096966.post-68767704759931541992015-06-02T18:26:08.765-04:002015-06-02T18:26:08.765-04:00Hi - I am in full agreement of questioning authori...Hi - I am in full agreement of questioning authority so long as it is done peacefully and respectfully. Alyssa exercising her right to questin is a very good thing especially since she chose a peaceful modality to do so. And yes, rules and societal norms are necessary for order however not at the expense of individuality and self creative expressions that harm no one. <br />Gail (an ole hippie)<br />peace.......Gailhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11337675996256691215noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7853678040614096966.post-4948954865845333042015-06-02T14:17:59.018-04:002015-06-02T14:17:59.018-04:00Everyone has the right to question the rules. This...Everyone has the right to question the rules. This young lady went about it in a peaceful and thoughtful manner. As far as protesting every rule in the future, I don't think that wanting to wear different clothes can be compared to moral, or respect issues later in life.<br />I think the school lost the opportunity for a teachable moment Individuality is not looked upon with esteem in today's society. We are nations of sheep. <br />. Karenhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07094543520943386032noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7853678040614096966.post-65326449637941240412015-06-02T14:05:42.066-04:002015-06-02T14:05:42.066-04:00i'm exercising the 5th as i see strength's...i'm exercising the 5th as i see strength's in both positions. it would have been easier for me to decide had it not been about the dress code!!!Debbiehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16823369215793154260noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7853678040614096966.post-69782644683944896312015-06-02T13:59:30.123-04:002015-06-02T13:59:30.123-04:00Peaceful nonviolent protest holds high honor in my...Peaceful nonviolent protest holds high honor in my estimation, having seen its productive results in the US, in India, and elsewhere. There is, of course, the question you raise of where to draw the line. I suspect the limits would have been drawn differently in the 50s by the civil rights protestors and the old guard upholding their view of order. There is an ongoing tension between allowing individual freedom and protecting order. So perhaps this could have been a teachable moment to address the issue of how we achieve balance between those sometimes competing interests. I hope she is not discouraged altogether in the future from taking a stand about important things. Judyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07141627284221873201noreply@blogger.com